So, ChipX86 finished up the styles for planet.fd.o, so I put them up, toyed with them a bit, added some new features, and wham. We're now cliche-of-the-month compatible. Word!

I voted no. Why? How about 'Centrino drivers'? I'm tipping that, a couple of years ago, the pundits wouldn't have tipped that the next Intel laptop chipset would require non-capital-F-Free drivers to run.

I recognise that Debian, GNU, and others were founded to a large degree on idealism, and that this continues to be a large driving force. However, I think it is our responsibility to take a degree of pragmatism on board: we shouldn't be preventing those with Centrino chipsets from running Debian.

Also, if non-free gets dropped, the discussion will die. The 'problem', as you put it, will move to non-free.org, it'll be even more of a pain for people with Centrino chipsets, or nVidia graphics cards (surely no-one has those!), or whatever happens to have non-free drivers next. It'll get worse. Then people will start bitching about bringing non-free back. It's such an ideologically divided issue that you will never please everyone, or even the majority of the people. You just pick who you want to piss off and stick with it.

Reading Joerg's NM rant made me think. First, I want your scripts, dude. ;) Secondly, tbm suckered me in with one awesome NM to start with. It's been all downhill from there.